I see that Hyden will be on SBS on the 9th of May and after seeing some of Black Olives work it should be a great show, but what has happened, has Offroad racing time warped back 10 years why isn't it on Seven, Nine or Ten. Speed week is a great show but it will not help people find sponsors like the other networks. Any exposure for the sport is great but SBS viewers will be way down on what the commercial networks could attract so l hope we might see it back on one of the other networks and soon as two of our sponsors are pissed that this has happened and if they pull out on us we won't be able to debut the new car this year and with our funds mostly coming from sponsors we might as well sell out now. Thanks to whoever allowed this to happen.
Wasn't it on One HD last year which is part of Channel Ten which showed the Aus series in a prime time slot which was a great selling point for sponsors.
Have to say I would have preferred to see it on One HD again, but it all costs money to get it shown. I would assume that One HD would be more expensive than SBS.
In my mind the biggest thing is to ensure the production quality is good, etc. The more exposure the sport can get, be it on One HD or SBS or Foxtel or wherever, the better, so long as the product shown is good.
By the way, in case anyone is concerned that I am having a dig at the change of people doing the show, I am not. I don't know either group, so that makes no difference at all to me.
speed week used to be a great show, now all you see is ski racing, jet sprint boats and some euro low class trash events, hopefully ORR will lift the show a notch. would be interesting to compare the actually figures between the 2 channels, as far as ORR is concerned anyway.
does anyone know how much of the speedweek time slot ORR id going to fill? hopefully the whole lot!
As far as I know, speedweek has got more viewers than one hd. BUT, who knows how old the data was, and was it taken into account that one hd is a new channel? I feel one hd would have been a better exposure in the longer term, and would have given more opportunity for other commercial channels to pick it up. I also liked the different time slots for one hd!
I also am NOT offering opinion on the filming rights....just an opinion of the channels!
If I remember rightly SBS had Hyden only last year.(no other rounds) and for those of us who don't get One Hd good stuff.I believe Black Olive is not the same production company(Rusty did the comentary) as the rest of the series was done by last year
My post is not about who got the rights this year and l stated that black olive do great work my only concern is with SBS. My sponsorship program has been based on comercial tv and my sponsors perception of SBS versus One HD is what l am worried about. It is still shown on pay TV as they pick up SBS but the time slots that ORR had last year were great with the F1 ect. Why couldn't Black Olive get the same deal with OneHD whatever that may have been.
last year black olive covered hyden only and it was shown on sbs.ORP also done coverage on hyden and the rest of aorc events last year and it was shown on one hd,if i remember correctly,. i enjoyed all coverage that the aorc recieved last year.
Once again I read the comments posted on a site owned and populated by the very enthusiasts of the exciting sport that the forum is designed to promote and I wonder, why the whinge? I have had the good fortune to witness first hand the emergence of this sport over the last two decades. From the days when forty of us would turn up at someone's cousin's farm on Saturday to mark the track, light the fire and drink the beer and then race the dozen or so homemade off road chariots on the Sunday for no more glory than receiving a hastily knocked up trophy and being bought the first round, to the monumental, well organised, professional spectacle that was the first round of the AORC at Hyden last month. Ninety of the best presented off road racing cars of all classes from all corners of the country, new transporters, big sponsors, the support of an entire township / shire, camera crews and local radio conducting interviews, photographers everywhere and, most importantly, hundreds of cheering, enthusiastic spectators. Who would have thought all those years ago that one day we would be doing what we love in an environment where families and groups of spectators would make the not inconsiderable trek out to our events to watch us compete, kids and parents alike wearing the livery of their favourite off road team. This monumental progression has taken time and thousands of hours of selfless dedication by a wide cross section of passionate believers in our sport. Whilst all of us know how exciting our sport can be and indeed many of us wonder what's taking the rest of the population so long to catch on, I'll hazard a guess to say that Network Television is not beating down the door in a bidding war to secure the AORC rights, just yet. I'm not privvy to the nuts and bolts of the media deals being done each year but I am privvy to the feedback I receive from work collegues, friends of friends and indeed perfect strangers commenting on the AORC and showing a surprising knowledge of the sport as a whole, due largely to the television exposure on Speedweek. You'll see what I mean if you load up the race car and take it down to the local shopping centre on a Saturday morning. Make sure you're well prepared, because the public knows what they're seeing and the kids will want a poster. How many of us get stopped at every roadhouse across the country to talk about the series and what's in the transporter? If we go back even just three or four years I'll bet I wasn't alone being forced to describe our Pro Buggies as "Yeah, just like beach buggies." The exposure our sport is receiving is phenomenal; sure there are more avenues to explore out there but there always will be. As competitors, we should keep working hard to promote our sport, display our cars, talk to people, encourage sponsorship and pounce on any opportunity to further our cause. (and try and win a few races too..) The TV deals, when they come, will be made by the professionals in that field that our off road committee appoints. We have a say in the direction this process heads when we vote our committee in. Black Olive, ORP, SBS, oneHD, youtube, Network TV or whatever the direction, let's support the decision, be positive with our sponsors and get on track with bringing Off Road Racing the attention it deserves.
As a post script and whilst we're on the subject, it is a joy to watch the Black Olive chopper pilot showcasing his talent and obvious understanding of our sport by spectacularly pushing the envelope to bring us that amazing high speed, close up vision that our supporters love.
See you in June for undoubtably the biggest and best Finke ever.
I remember the old days too Hank as a 4 year old at Hattah in 1974 watching the old man race, seeing my mother voted of all things " Miss Sump Plug" for holding the BAV (Buggy Assoc of Victoria) together, if you look into the history of off-road racing on offroad.com you will see my old mans truck carting 6 cars to the first Gundy and to many other races after that so l am not a new boy to the sport and my Family has had quite some imput into the Off-road scene. We are 3 generations strong into off-road racing and we are trying to get to race on a national scene more often via sponsors which are a lot like the people who have been talking to you over the last couple of years who have come to know our series because of network TV. I did not say that black olive do a bad job or that SBS doesn't have a place in promoting our series they did 3 plus years ago but network TV is so much more appealing to sponsors that l hope that it makes it way back there sooner rather than later. It is 25 years since l started driving my own buggy a swing axle Hustler with about 100 spectators at the BAV 100 in Seymour and l hope that in 5 years when my boy is old enough to steer himself that he has at least 50 times that many watching him race live and a huge TV audience on network TV so his sponsors might be able to make him a professional driver. It is not whinging it is hoping the future of the sport is better for my son like l have it better than my dad did.
Please dont take my previous comment as whinging, just I would prefer onehd.
Hank, you have written an excellent post, and I totally agree with you....you would be a great asset to this forum.
I hope I am correct in saying your name is a 'californication' alias (no offence if its real), but if this is the case, forum rules would mean we would need to remove you, so please edit as required and keep your contributions coming:)
Once again I read the comments posted on a site owned and populated by the very enthusiasts of the exciting sport that the forum is designed to promote and I wonder, why the whinge? I have had the good fortune to witness first hand the emergence of this sport over the last two decades. From the days when forty of us would turn up at someone's cousin's farm on Saturday to mark the track, light the fire and drink the beer and then race the dozen or so homemade off road chariots on the Sunday for no more glory than receiving a hastily knocked up trophy and being bought the first round, to the monumental, well organised, professional spectacle that was the first round of the AORC at Hyden last month. Ninety of the best presented off road racing cars of all classes from all corners of the country, new transporters, big sponsors, the support of an entire township / shire, camera crews and local radio conducting interviews, photographers everywhere and, most importantly, hundreds of cheering, enthusiastic spectators. Who would have thought all those years ago that one day we would be doing what we love in an environment where families and groups of spectators would make the not inconsiderable trek out to our events to watch us compete, kids and parents alike wearing the livery of their favourite off road team. This monumental progression has taken time and thousands of hours of selfless dedication by a wide cross section of passionate believers in our sport. Whilst all of us know how exciting our sport can be and indeed many of us wonder what's taking the rest of the population so long to catch on, I'll hazard a guess to say that Network Television is not beating down the door in a bidding war to secure the AORC rights, just yet. I'm not privvy to the nuts and bolts of the media deals being done each year but I am privvy to the feedback I receive from work collegues, friends of friends and indeed perfect strangers commenting on the AORC and showing a surprising knowledge of the sport as a whole, due largely to the television exposure on Speedweek. You'll see what I mean if you load up the race car and take it down to the local shopping centre on a Saturday morning. Make sure you're well prepared, because the public knows what they're seeing and the kids will want a poster. How many of us get stopped at every roadhouse across the country to talk about the series and what's in the transporter? If we go back even just three or four years I'll bet I wasn't alone being forced to describe our Pro Buggies as "Yeah, just like beach buggies." The exposure our sport is receiving is phenomenal; sure there are more avenues to explore out there but there always will be. As competitors, we should keep working hard to promote our sport, display our cars, talk to people, encourage sponsorship and pounce on any opportunity to further our cause. (and try and win a few races too..) The TV deals, when they come, will be made by the professionals in that field that our off road committee appoints. We have a say in the direction this process heads when we vote our committee in. Black Olive, ORP, SBS, oneHD, youtube, Network TV or whatever the direction, let's support the decision, be positive with our sponsors and get on track with bringing Off Road Racing the attention it deserves.
As a post script and whilst we're on the subject, it is a joy to watch the Black Olive chopper pilot showcasing his talent and obvious understanding of our sport by spectacularly pushing the envelope to bring us that amazing high speed, close up vision that our supporters love.
See you in June for undoubtably the biggest and best Finke ever.
Where's the whinge? I think it is great that it is on tv, but my personal opinion is that ideally it would be better if it was shown on One HD. As I also mentioned, there are a lot of costs associated with getting the product to air, and who knows what the difference between SBS and One HD is. Probably a reasonable amount I would guuess.
I just think that there is more chance of someone outside the sport accidentally discovering the program on One HD than there is for them to do that with Speedweek on SBS. That isn't a whinge or a dig at anyone, just a personal opinion.
pretty sure sbs has good viewing numbers compared to one hd, but I am happy to stand corrected, as I am relying on second hand info.
My understanding is what sponsors (and we all) need it not just viewing numbers but retaining viewers. ie the numbers keep increasing across the entire program - in other words people stay watching and dont turn off. ONE HD has such a broad range of sports they will always have a reasonable following as there will be a number of viewers that hang around form the previous show. Speedweek however wouldattract more dedicated motorsport viewers which stay around if the product and production is good.
just my very limited understanding. I guess it comes down to how we sell it to our sponsors
There is a lot more to the TV side of offroad racing than most people know about and I'm sure that after the last couple of months those that had anything to do with it do not want to hear one more thing about TV. Basically nothing is free and the money has to come from somewhere, so the more coverage we want the more it costs. The AORC could have been on one hd this year but the costs associated with it were rather high, I am very confident that the AORC will be on commercial TV very soon but it has to be done properly and we need some very good sponsors to make it happen, that said if things go to plan and ORRINC can achieve what they set out to do the AORC will be broadcast Australia wide on commercial TV for the 2011 season. Please don't criticise those that are trying their best to promote offroad racing, it may not be perfect but I think that it is near impossible to please everyone.
Just got a chance to watch Hyden, that was freaking awesome! Great footage, good interviews, great info on the top runners, and coverage of all classes. Loved it.
On a side note I got a call from a brother in law who is not interested in any motorsport at all. He was jumping down the phone at me telling me how brilliant that offroad racing caper is and wants to come to our next event. Brilliant work by everyone involved!!!
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