Rorty Buggy

dre · Forum Addict

Rorty Buggy

heyu · Rehab Dropout...

Some of the guys from western Aus are doing that already,
Check out TORC Racing Club in Victoria. especially the forum under CAMS.

These guys & Girls have been running events under CAMS permits since 1982,they have submitted all the stuff to make thier cages and regs legal to all the relevent bodies and are waiting for this stuff to come back.in the not to distant future.
I'm sure when all the regs are aproved,then you will see other states starting up Clubs for that type of vehicle. If they need a track in Sydney I'm sure our Club would be interested in helping out. smile

dre · Forum Addict

Was thinking more about making it fit into the current off road racing classes. A single seater like that adjusted at the rear to take a 2L engine car of some sort would be a fairly good start to a pro-lite wouldn't it? Smaller and lighter than most buggies out there I would think.

heyu · Rehab Dropout...

No reason why not, have you seen Gordon Tardrews ibuza powered little buggy,its almost what you are talking about.

boss truck · Rehab Dropout...

dre wrote:

Was thinking more about making it fit into the current off road racing classes. A single seater like that adjusted at the rear to take a 2L engine car of some sort would be a fairly good start to a pro-lite wouldn't it? Smaller and lighter than most buggies out there I would think.

Why would you bother with a car engine. A hybusa powered single seater was running in the top 10 at Finke a couple of years back. They have some nice 2 seater plans why not run class 3 and with more room in the cockpit they would make a better prolite. With the busa motor you have a 6 speed sequential already built in so for the price of a good kombi box you have a bullet proof weapon.

dre · Forum Addict

Any ideas on where to source a busa engine, and pricing on one?

boss truck · Rehab Dropout...

You might try Bike wreckers and try the TORC forums. Also in DirtComp last issue the said in the edge buggy artical that they have developed an electric reverse gear for the busa motors so getting a price for that might be an idea as well. There is one running in NSW in Prolite so that guy will be able to give you some advice about which way to go about it .

dre · Forum Addict

Looks like a busa motor with everything required to fit it in a buggy will be about $5,000. Might make the whole project a bit far for the budget to stretch.

Might have to go back to looking for a cheap 2nd hand frame as the basis for a build up.

boss truck · Rehab Dropout...

Contact the guy from Rorty he does plans to order might be worth a chat. If not you will find a frame in someones backyard somewhere you will get cheap. Wolf has a slightly used Rivmasta. biggrin

-- Edited by boss truck at 16:46, 2008-10-27

Magila · Forum Addict

Darren Payne from Tassie runs a busa powered class 3
finished 23rd at the finke first in class
he's already built 2 busa buggy's & rumour has it he's building a 3rd

there was a Hornet at sealake with a busa in the back class 3 don't have a name

Shembri was the guy at the Finke last year prolouged 6th a good 5 second's off the pace
again busa powered he ran 4th outright at the turnaround point at finke 2006

not that I've noticed LOL

I think late model bike engines have a lot to offer, just more engineering is required
in the trans area

just my thought's

Magila · Forum Addict

http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/showthread.php?t=77723
and if that link dosent work try this one
www.speedunl.com

again not that i've bin lookn

dre · Forum Addict

now that is a nice build...

Looking at it more and more it is hard to go past a bike for power to weight, a busa motor gives out similar power to a 4-AGE, is lighter and is a class lower.

Problem is a busa motor costs about what I would want to spend as a total initial payment on a buggy. Wonder if there are a cheaper options out there....fireblade motor etc.

boss truck · Rehab Dropout...

dre wrote:

now that is a nice build...

Looking at it more and more it is hard to go past a bike for power to weight, a busa motor gives out similar power to a 4-AGE, is lighter and is a class lower.

Problem is a busa motor costs about what I would want to spend as a total initial payment on a buggy. Wonder if there are a cheaper options out there....fireblade motor etc.

You could go through power and torque figures and you might be able to get something simular. l always thought a V Twin such as a TL1000 would go well and sound awesome

jones off road · Rehab Dropout...

Mark Everliegh converted a class 3 to run the hyabusa motor, I think it took a bit of development to get it right though. He ran some sort of gearbox (from london I think) that the engine bolted straight up to. I think the setup may have been expensive. I also think the current class 3 they run is not that vehicle...so that might be an indication?
Might be worth contacting him if yoor still interested!

But for my 2 cents worth, I would recommend staying more traditional to get started, plus, (while there are exceptions) most of the light 'power to weight' ratio examples dont seem to perform too well overall!

Magila · Forum Addict

Have to agree with Jones on this one, I have done a bit of research on the subject and it wouldn't be cheap, if your trying to start on a tight budget as Jones said stick with something more traditional.

I did hear Luke Erceg buggy 111 was runing a large bike motor and is now running car engine & gearbox due to reliability issues.

dre · Forum Addict

Will head down a more traditional path for a start, just gotta find a cheap (<$1500) frame, roller, whatever, as a starting point....don't even know if they are out there confused

-- Edited by dre at 21:50, 2008-10-28

william · Rehab Dropout...

if you decide to go the traditional route and have a limited budget i recommend buying a ready to race buggy as starting with a frame and building it up will add up very quick. i started with a budget of $10,000 to build up may fame and i have now spent that and will probable cost the same again before i get what i want. i have been building for over 12 months now and buying as many bargain when they come available. it's a long road to build up a buggy from scratch as all the small bits addup.

here is a starter available now( don't know the car or owner just an example)

http://offroadracing.com.au/index.php?option=com_marketplace&page=show_ad&catid=4&adid=227&Itemid=7

william

dre · Forum Addict

I would prefer to buy a finished car for sure, but the better half is dead against me getting a buggy at all, easier to slip a couple of thousand through than 6000-7000. That said, I am tempted to just go and do it then live with the consequence....maybe that is a whole other thread!

william · Rehab Dropout...

if you are keen and have a budget in mind put up a request in forsale/wanted and see what people have . but most of all if your in sydney i would recommend coming along to a few club events and meeting people as you will find people are more liekly to let stuff go if its actual going to someone who is going to race it.

william · Rehab Dropout...

heres a few more

http://offroadracing.com.au/index.php?option=com_marketplace&page=show_ad&catid=8&adid=221&Itemid=7

or this

BAJA - semi complete, includes body, cage/frame, shocks Has log book. Needs wheels,motor,gearbox (is set up for Kombi gearbox.) Ideal starter car $1500 Ed Findlay Ph: 86344336

with this

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=28245&p=3&topicID=21515369

and this

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=28245&p=3&topicID=21524955

and you will need to find some other bit but you get the picture

william

Wolf · Rehab Dropout...

For a Baja I'd look at Warren Irons' Its a well sorted unit and surprisingly quick.

KUSTERRACECO · In rehab

its quick because of the nut behind the wheel

Wolf · Rehab Dropout...

the wheelnut?

FOA Prolite · Rehab Dropout...

dre here is one that might intrest you just ask if he has the log book first.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/DUNE-BUGGY-great-project-BARGAIN_W0QQitemZ170274980436QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170274980436&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

-- Edited by FOA Prolite at 09:29, 2008-10-30

jump1 · Rehab Dropout...

if you are after theses plans let me know as i have a copy here as i think it cost about $220 for the plans. I also spoke to him about doing a class 1 plan but the cost was $15k - $20k for a set

Flat Out Off Road Racing Team · Powerhouse Poster

http://digriteracing.net16.net/index.html
If you are looking at busa buggies, this one is based on an edge barracuda, there is one running in prolite in WA, won prologue outright at Mogumber last year and then again last weekend at Bencubbin.