boss truck wrote:

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Rumour has it that a top runner in pro class is fitting a set of truck panels to his ride. Is anyone else doing this for next year, we know what certain sections of the membership think of this and l agree with them,  but what do the likes of Danny Brown ect think of this after buying new trucks for next year.

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At first I didn't have a problem with this, however, after some more thought and seeing the vehicle in question, I have to say that I don't think it should be allowed.  However, note that this is not illegal, it is fully within the laws as they currently stand.  I don't think the rules are correct or fair, but they are what they are.  The hardest thing now, though, is how do you change those rules to outlaw this practice if there are already people who have spent the money on panels, etc and who abide by the rules at the time?  Is it fair to then outlaw the practice and make their cars illegal, and their investment worthless?

Boyd wrote:

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Trekka273 wrote:

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boss truck wrote:

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Rumour has it that a top runner in pro class is fitting a set of truck panels to his ride. Is anyone else doing this for next year, we know what certain sections of the membership think of this and l agree with them,  but what do the likes of Danny Brown ect think of this after buying new trucks for next year.

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At first I didn't have a problem with this, however, after some more thought and seeing the vehicle in question, I have to say that I don't think it should be allowed.  However, note that this is not illegal, it is fully within the laws as they currently stand.  I don't think the rules are correct or fair, but they are what they are.  The hardest thing now, though, is how do you change those rules to outlaw this practice if there are already people who have spent the money on panels, etc and who abide by the rules at the time?  Is it fair to then outlaw the practice and make their cars illegal, and their investment worthless?

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Didn't want to change this thread but its been buging me for a while.
i may be missing something but in my copy of the CAMS manual (Quarter2 / 2009)
it states under extreme 2wd -


SR 2.2.4 ENGINEThe engine is free, subject to it being of not more than 6000cc capacity for petrol engines or 7200cc for diesel engines inclusive of any turbo/supercharging, rotary and/or diesel correction factors.

Modifications to the engine are free.

The location of the engine is free, save that no part of the cylinder block may extend across a line drawn at right angles to the longitudinal axis of the car, at a point halfway between the front and rear wheel hub centres.

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To me this means that a buck is not allowed
luke

-- Edited by Boyd on Monday 7th of December 2009 11:30:06 AM

 

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The location of the engine is free. - Apart from the fact that it must be in front of or BEHIND the centre of the wheelbase.

 

i was just having a quick buzz through the rules and i cant see why i cant run my new truck next year as a pro class buggy

who is the top runner thats putting a body on for next year

ahh killer, is trav puting a body on too??

wow that makes the whole idea of changing the class structure so its less confusing a little bit silly, might just do it to make a point, they really need to have a look at this dont they

It's all coming 'full circle' now Spaz!....just took a while.

spaz wrote:

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WOW what a shock that is, to find out that the class structure between Pro class and Extreme 2WD has no defining line to keep them different. Hope Cams/Aorcom are ready to sort this out. Its not that they weren't warned!!!!

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what goes around, comes around.

You seem to be more concerned now the shoes on the other foot...lol

-- Edited by BAJAs RULE on Friday 11th of December 2009 11:11:27 PM

and now that class is 'open' enough to let everyone in!!

This will be a mess.

Maybe the differnentiation should be is it has a tailshaft - but that stuffs the bajas ahhhhh a mess


GUys importing and building trophy truck style vehicles will be good for the sport in the long run. spectators will go for it, sponsors will etc. If we let buggies run agasinst them with panels on then less will come and play

I agree there's not enough baja's running to worry about, and I'm not really concerned anymore, I just like stirring, I'm quite happy to run with the buggys as I did in the 2006 NSW Championship and on many other times when there just wasn't anyone else to race in my class, I asked the question a while back "how many other Bajas are still out there" and the only responce was one person that was wanting to build one for the street. no point worrying about me, I only race once every 3 years.

how about a class called trophy trucks for the truck that want to race trucks only. there are a few other 2wd runnning around australia there is an escort in wa a few corollas at club levels around the traps so the 2wd class could still be as is and we just start a class for the trucks to race in problem solved. rules are easy a truck has motor in the front a gearbox a drive shaft between the gear box and the diff and a diff live axle or solid. the motor must be foward of the seating position of the driver.

sounds easy enough to me. i think we should all go back out to the shed and work on our cars.

-- Edited by william on Saturday 12th of December 2009 10:51:13 AM

yes but how many production trucks come with a rear mount engine none that i know of. my way of looking at what is beginning said here is the people involved with trucks want to race other "standard lay out trucks". i know there is a production 2wd class but my thought is that extreme 2wd is there for these vehicle that have been changed too far from the production vehicle. eg remove chassis fit fully space frame. change suspension to extreme travel remove steel body replace with fibreglass etc etc.

i know my idea means nothing and this will go on for years to come.