Just wondering Stingray how many races have you done this year in your car?

The point we are trying to make is that most if not all the competitors in prolite are happy with the rules the way it is and it makes for close racing, at the moment there is only so much HP you can get from an N/A 3.5lt so if people want to spend 30 or 40 grand on an engine to get an extra couple of HP then they can but a standard motor still can compete as proven this year with both Simpson and Yearly getting 102 & 103 with standard motors. Now spend that much on a Turbo 2lt with a massive turbo and boost and a standard motor won't compete!

The second thing I'm saying is you are only looking at one state not the whole sport. There are some very fast 2lt turbo cars around Australia that still are competitive in pro class in there state. A lot of state running cars aren't running expensive engines in prolite they are running stock ones 

Several of the comments regarding the ARB series in this topic have been addressed here http://sorra.activeboard.com/t55522265/arb-series-entry-fees/ other comments that require clarification are below.

2204           How about we look at why it costs nearly $1000 to enter a national round and why at Coffs you could do all laps for cheaper when not registered for points? Imo that is why the ARB series is so good, you get to do national style tracks for around state event prices.

It baffles me how/why AORC rounds cost what they do.

I have requested information on the mechanism used for non national competitors to exceed the maximum allowance of 75% at the last 2 nationals but still waiting for an answer.

Stingray 2212 My view is that the competitors made a very clear statement with their support of the ARB series. I think it will grow even more next year & I think fields of only 30 cars at nationals will become more common. Who knows why national events are so expensive, it's very clear that the ARB event organisers see reasonable entry fees as a priority which is why their events got such good numbers. I think the slide towards the ARB series will continue because national entry fees won't come down.

We certainly hope that the ARB series will grow, all the people involved are extremely motivated, passionate and have seen the errors made by others in the past. Each event has their unique costs that need to be covered and all the events did their best to keep their entries realistic.

We are all encouraged by the hundreds of complements about the series throughout the year but we are not letting it go to our heads. The stats tell us that entries went up for Sea Lake and Griffith but remained similar for Goondiwindi and Millicent. Sea Lake were determined to make a huge celebration for their 40th race. Through good marketing and a bargain entry price they pushed entries over 120 which is a great result. Griffith has had a few quiet years and run a state event but with the exposure generated by the series had a fantastic increase in entries. If entries alone were the performance indicators we were judged on I would be a little disappointed but what about the effort of 22 competitors to get to every round, what about 4 different classes in the top 10 outright points, what about the support, security and unity provided to all of the events, what about how much fun we all had racing at great events with no BS. These were all goals the ARB Series set and achieved.

 I dont think that competitors are sliding (down) to the ARB series more like rising up to a competitor friendly, exciting and fun series that has open communication with competitors, organisers, partners and providers.

Simpson as for ARB it's my understanding CAMS gave them a 1 st year deal on entry fees that will be bought into line with National entry's in 2014,
CAMS presented us with an offer for entries that we considered detrimental to the series by discouraging competitors from going to all events, we counter offered with a plan that provided CAMS with a higher income and this was accepted. We went into the meeting to plan for the future not 1 year.

Simpson National entry's were down a lot of people sent AORC a message, I hope they are listening and us the competitors are the winners.

They are listening and helping all the state panels and competitors with their planning by announcing their calendar nice and early. PS the tooth fairy is real as well.

Pedroski The entry fees have been increased by CAMS in the ARB series to National levels. ARB will be keeping the fees the same as this year by paying the difference as sponsorship.

The ARB Series committee will continue to work through the costs but competitors should expect a small rise in entry fees with the CAMS plan. As I mentioned in other post no decision has been made yet.

Something I would like to know. Given that the ARB series entries were based on state event charges this year, was the overall revenue to CAMS from off road up or down for the season compared to last year.

When the deal was done with CAMS re entry fees, did they give any indication (verbal or otherwise) that it was a one year proposition?

Peter who's car are you talking about ? if its posted in the wrong class then I'm sure they'd like to know.