Yes, it is true. Milbrodale is no longer a round of the AORC for next year.

The decision was based on a drivers' meeting at Mildura, and feedback from competitors, that they want a 5 round series with 4 to count. As well as this there was a concern with track density on a lap length of 22km, verses the 30 odd kms proposed verbally at the August meeting.

What is the AORC's loss is the NSWORC gain. Bring on Milbrodale 2007 for it will be my return...

 

The Milbrodale Mountain Classic is a Long Course event due to lap length and has carried the title of NSW Long Course Championship for many years.

 

Well what a few days can do to off road I  have  somethings to say. The Milbrodale club has run this race for 20 years. So thay do know how to ran a long course if thay did not think thay could thay would not appied. So it was only  22 kms a lap do you think the club were going to let you start all at once. I all so think that there should be six rounds and drop one or two.  If Griffith had applied it would still be a round. So I do not think it is the number of rounds. So what is it the 22 kms I do not think so. It must be it must be it must be             the weather.

I was at Mildura and heard a lot of the discussions about next years calendar. I don't believe that it was anything in particular against the Milbrodale even that lead to the discussions, it was more a case of the majority of competitors who do the full championship were not happy to have six events due to costs and time factors.
The cost to attend an extra event add a significant amount of money to the years budget, not to mention that it is getting more and more difficult to find enough time to attend each meeting, let alone the extra prepration time/costs.

Azteck wrote:

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I wonder what would have happened if Griffith had been in the final 6!!!???

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They obviously picked the event at the end of the line and dropped it. It wouldnt have made sence to drop a tried and proven round. If Griffith had been a national I am sure it wouldnt have been dropped as it is a great round(tried and proven) although I am sure one of the others would have been dropped in its place ie: pines, mildura, hyden, Gundy.

As for the people that were not at Mildura having thier say:

I think they figured that the people that do the whole lot of the national rounds will be at every round and therefore were at Mildura......

Aztek.

I am not a fan of the system of dropping a round/s for your final points tally.  However, if this sis the system that they have decided to use, I would much rather that it be only one round of five that was dropped rather than two of six.  My reason for this is that if at the start of the year if I sat down and worked out the only four rounds that I could attend (due to cost/time) and I did quite well at those events, I could have a good chance of winning the championship.  But, if I don't have a good round in those four, i am at a disadvantage.  My competitor, who may have more money/time than me, if he struggles for a round or two, he can attend all six rounds in the hope of getting four good results that would count towards his final score.  he has a much greater chance of having a good final result.  The same risk would apply when dropping one round, however the risk to my final championship standing is reduced.

With regards to it being Milbrodale that was dropped, well I guess to an extent that the fact it is not an existing round of the championship, and then the track density issues, meant that it was the one to face the chop when the competitors spoek with AORCOM to advise voice their unhappiness with going to a six round championship.  From my recollection the Milbrodale event was not specifically targetted at the Mildura meeting, it was simply a case of the competitors believing that five rounds was the maximum number that should be run.  And no decision was made by AORCOM at this meeting, it was simply a discussion and then AORCOM went away and made the decision at a later date.

And the NSW competitors can have a say.  The last national round was raced in NSW, but apart from that, I am sure that there is a NSW delegate on the AORCOM committee, and anyone can write or phone to have their say to basically any of the committee members.

1887 wrote:

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 there's two points i dont get, if dropping milb was a cost cutting thing then im not pretty sure that milb is a lot closer to VIC than WA or QLD is, because 90% of the so called AORC competittors at mildra where from VIC, and remember that old saying 'time is money ' . the second point about been tried and proven, is how did WA get a round of the almost AORC

               

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I think people are getting carried away with the meeting that was held at Pooncarie. This meeting did nto decide to drop Milbrodale!! All that was discussed was that the calander had expanded to six events when the majority of competitors did not wish for the Championship to be expanded No doubt there have been lots of discussions since this time between various member of AORCOM and numerous competitors/organisers. Also, if you have a look at the entries at the Pooncarie round, the series regulars were there, so don't kid yourself by saying that "90% of the so called AORC competitors were fom Victoria". There may have been a lot from Victoria, but a lot of them compete in the entire AORC, and there was a lot of people from other states as well.

Don't forget, there are a lot more rounds closer to Sydney than there are to Perth. As I said in my last response, the last race was actually in NSW, not Victoria.

Don't get me wrong, I would have preferred Milbrodale to be in the Chmpionship as it is closer to me (Melbourne), but it isn't. But get don't be mistaken by thinking that one meeting at the last national round ended this race.

Lets be honest, if I was in the decision making process of dropping a round, I would unfortunately have to vote Milbrodale out.

I am a humble club/state racer and spectate the AORC as well. I don't want to have a say in what happens with AORC matters. AORC matters should be left to AORC competitors, particularly something as simple as how many rounds they want.

All I am trying to say is that this decision to drop a round should never have taken place.

Meetings such as the one at Mildura should have been SET UP way before the calendar was put together, for AORC contenders, not just anyone who happens to be in the pits at the time.

Six national rounds is not to many if you can drop one. If Griffith was in there, there would be six rounds. Aorcom runs the show or do they. In NSW the state panel tell us how many rounds there is. Every club gets a round if they would like it, so there is seven round but alot of people would like less, but it is up to the panel.      

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Azteck wrote:

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All I am trying to say is that this decision to drop a round should never have taken place.

Meetings such as the one at Mildura should have been SET UP way before the calendar was put together, for AORC contenders, not just anyone who happens to be in the pits at the time.

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I completly agree with you.

 

BUT, this is the problem with our sport especially at a national level. Nothing is organised or no one wants to organise it but when the decisions are made everyone whinges.(I am not saying you are whinging, simply explaining myself)

What we need is a governing body such as the Aus off road commision aswell as a group of national competitors that have the power to make decisions on behalf of the rest of us. The only reason the commision elected 6 rounds was because there was 6 very good rounds that would make up a great calender, little did they know that not one competitor(that was at the meeting in Pooncarie(50+)) wanted a 6 round series.

So AORCOM could not have possibly walked away from that meeting with the thought of running a 6 round series and it was just obvious that something had to be done.

The meeting in Pooncarie was about just this. Displaying the idea of electing a group of a single member into AORCOM on behalf of the competitors. If we had already had this AORCOM would have known no competitors wanted 6 rounds.

One more thing Aaron, I beleive that at least 99% of the competitors knew that the meeting was going to take place at least 2 hours prior.

 

1887 wrote:

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 there's two points i dont get, if dropping milb was a cost cutting thing then im not pretty sure that milb is a lot closer to VIC than WA or QLD is, because 90% of the so called AORC competittors at mildra where from VIC, and remember that old saying 'time is money ' . the second point about been tried and proven, is how did WA get a round of the almost AORC

               

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The Hyden event got a round the same way anyone else does. We put in submission and the commision throw up the pros and cons of holding the event, one of the pros being that more WA competitors would join the championship circus.(you may have noticed there was more true national competitors from WA in an event held in NSW than actual racers from NSW.)

slow wrote:

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Six national rounds is not to many if you can drop one.    

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Slow,

You try getting to and from WA for 5 let alone 6 rounds allowing for time to prep, and this not only our thoughts but the rest of the competitors(from all over Aus) feel the same way.There is obviously no way the commision can please everyone so the best they can do is please the majority.

THe round held at Pooncarie is the Victorian round of the Australian Off Road Championship. It is run by Victorians & is part of the Victorian Off Road Championship.
Just a point of interest for those interested.
I'm jealous we don't have a paddock that big to play in /